Here’s a solution: Those born with chronic conditions not brought on by any of their own life choices, it sucks but you are now required to fund your regular, daily care from your own pocket without insurance options because that coverage is for “catastropic” and “unpredictable” costs only. This may not be fair based on our man-made definition of that word, but it’s a simple reality of capitalism and the free market. As a result of this, because you were born with this chronic condition or received a diagnosis at age 5 through not fault of your own, you are now practically banned from EVER owning a home, paying rent in an apartment, having your own children because they themselves might have a “pre-existing” condition based on genetic faults you’ve passed on… All of this because you can’t afford it, since you’ll not have the insurance coverage to at least help offset some of those costs. You lose your ability to go after life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness… No longer is it guaranteed to you, because it’s prohibited by the free market and capitalism.

How’s that for a society? What was that, Hitler? Didn’t hear you.

“…and that those of us who work, think, save, defer gratification, and don’t seek to pick the pockets of others neither want nor need you.

You said one very true thing: this is a very cold-hearted country. It holds that my property is not mine, my labor is not mine, and I have no “rights” save those it and others like you grant me grudgingly. These days it seems as though my only “right” is to be your un-fed milk cow. Cows dry up, you know. Your world holds that I am natural resource to be controlled or mined. I quit. I don’t produce more than I need any more. You can go figure out who to rob next.”
Right on!
The “un-fed milk cow” analogy is great! I am tired of being called “Cold” or “Uncharitable”. Charity starts at home. In my earlier post I eluded to the lack of compassion in hand-outs. Encouraging people to be truly independent is as compassionate as you can get! When I was young I didn’t get that. When my seniors/superiors would push back and force me to “mature” (Make researched, long-term, responsibility accepting decisions) I didn’t like it, I thought them “mean”. Bless them!

Joe, DaveB, gimmeabreak….
Anyone thinking a National Healthcare Insurance Plan will help/fix the current issues and doesn’t recognize the REAL effects of such a plan really doesn’t have a clue. I agree we need the GREED out of healthcare and that goes for those wanting the most for nothing! Hiding behind the Needy and unfortunate is cowardly. The abundance created by our free market/capitalist system is what allows you to believe you can allocate others money to fit your view. We already take care of the needy.

Anyone not noticing the puppet strings being strung by the Federal Government in the US economy is BLIND! This game is over as we have known it. Stopped being blinded by your jealousy and self-pity. PERSONAL FREEDOM, and LIBERTY are the price for the current administration’s policies. That is not alarmist. There is no underlying economy capable of carrying the load being placed on it. Those who think a “leveling” is due are some of the most “cold-hearted” people on the planet. Scrutinize your own motivations, I am not buying the compassion!~C

“…and that those of us who work, think, save, defer gratification, and don’t seek to pick the pockets of others neither want nor need you.

You said one very true thing: this is a very cold-hearted country. It holds that my property is not mine, my labor is not mine, and I have no “rights” save those it and others like you grant me grudgingly. These days it seems as though my only “right” is to be your un-fed milk cow. Cows dry up, you know. Your world holds that I am natural resource to be controlled or mined. I quit. I don’t produce more than I need any more. You can go figure out who to rob next.”

The “un-fed milk cow” analogy is great! I am tired of being called “Cold” or “Uncharitable”. Charity starts at home. In my earlier post I eluded to the lack of compassion in hand-outs. Encouraging people to be truly independent is as compassionate as you can get! When I was young I didn’t get that. When my seniors/superiors would push back and force me to “mature” (Make informed long-term responsibility accepting decisions) I didn’t like it, I thought them “mean”. Bless them!

Joe, DaveB, gimmeabreak….
Anyone thinking a National Healthcare Insurance Plan will help/fix the current issues and doesn’t recognize the REAL effects of such a plan really doesn’t have a clue. I agree we need the GREED out of healthcare and that goes for those wanting the most for nothing!

Anyone not noticing the puppet strings being strung by the government in the US economy is BLIND! This game is over as we have known it. Stopped being blinded by your jealousy and self-pity. PERSONAL FREEDOM, and LIBERTY are the price for the current administration’s policies. That is not alarmist. There is no underlying economy capable of carrying the load being placed on it. Those who think a “leveling” is due are some of the most “cold-hearted” people on the planet. Scrutinize your own motivations, I am not buying the compassion!~C

“…and that those of us who work, think, save, defer gratification, and don’t seek to pick the pockets of others neither want nor need you.

You said one very true thing: this is a very cold-hearted country. It holds that my property is not mine, my labor is not mine, and I have no “rights” save those it and others like you grant me grudgingly. These days it seems as though my only “right” is to be your un-fed milk cow. Cows dry up, you know. Your world holds that I am natural resource to be controlled or mined. I quit. I don’t produce more than I need any more. You can go figure out who to rob next.”

RIGHT ON!

The “un-fed milk cow” analogy is great! I am tired of being called “Cold” or “Uncharitable”. Charity starts at home. In my earlier post I eluded to the lack of compassion in hand-outs. Encouraging people to be truly independent is as compassionate as you can get! When I was young I didn’t get that. When my seniors/superiors would push back and force me to “mature” (Make informed long-term responsibility accepting decisions) I didn’t like it, I thought them “mean”. Bless them!

Joe, DaveB, gimmeabreak….
Anyone thinking a National Healthcare Insurance Plan will help/fix the current issues and doesn’t recognize the REAL effects of such a plan really doesn’t have a clue. No disrespect intended. I agree we need the GREED out of healthcare and that goes for those wanting the most for nothing!

Anyone not noticing the puppet strings being strung by the government in the US economy is BLIND! This game is over as we have known it. Stopped being blinded by your jealousy and self-pity. PERSONAL FREEDOM, and LIBERTY are the price for the current administration’s policies. That is not alarmist. There is no underlying economy capable of carrying the load being placed on it. Those who think a “leveling” is due are some of the most “cold-hearted” people on the planet. Scrutinize your own motivations, I am not buying the compassion!~C

Statist thugs are all the same, eager to use compulsion to force others to do as they wish, or dream, or benefit from…and you know you don’t think ALL individuals should be compelled to contribute to the “common good,” a concept I doubt you can define. Your tired old socialism is based on the truth that some few cannot take care of themselves and a lot more could but don’t because you are there to hand over stolen goods. What are you going to compel the person who needs you to hold a gun on me to provide him “free” medical care to give? What has he got?

Reality adds that those in power (such as leftist millionaires in Congress) don’t pay taxes, and that those of us who work, think, save, defer gratification, and don’t seek to pick the pockets of others neither want nor need you.

You said one very true thing: this is a very cold-hearted country. It holds that my property is not mine, my labor is not mine, and I have no “rights” save those it and others like you grant me grudgingly. These days it seems as though my only “right” is to be your un-fed milk cow. Cows dry up, you know. Your world holds that I am natural resource to be controlled or mined. I quit. I don’t produce more than I need any more. You can go figure out who to rob next.

The purpose of insurance is to spread the risk. The insurance companies are currently reducing their risks so that they can minimize premiums and maximize their profits. The big problem with this is that people that had no insurance when they were diagnosed with something expensive to treat are just plain SOL. Same for people that had a condition and then lost their jobs and can’t get new insurance. Or people that just plain can’t afford their insurance any more because they have a condition and can’t change their insurance, but their premiums are prohibitively expensive because all the healthy people left their “insurance pool”. I feel bad for these people. They may want coverage and they may be willing to pay for coverage, but they either can’t get it or can’t afford it. Something needs to be done.

I don’t know that I’m for a national plan, but I am for insurance companies having to insure absolutely anyone that applies. I’m also for the insurance company having one giant insurance pool for the whole company so that the risk is spread evenly amongst all policy holders, not just the policy holders from Illinois that bought their policies on June 3rd, etc. Sure young healthy people won’t like the extra premiums to cover some of the expense created by older unhealthy people, but the whole point of insurance is to spread the risk exposure, and they just aren’t doing it. .Excess risk should be spread among all insurance companies by selling each other insurance. Make insurance companies do what insurance is supposed to do – spread the risk.