Comments on: Secession as a Solution to the Washington Debt Threat http://whiskeyandgunpowder.com/secession-as-a-solution-to-the-washington-debt-threat/ Whiskey and Gunpowder features articles on gold, oil, currencies, emerging markets, energy, and more. Thu, 24 May 2012 21:26:59 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Stanley d. Allen http://whiskeyandgunpowder.com/secession-as-a-solution-to-the-washington-debt-threat/comment-page-2/#comment-5862 Stanley d. Allen Fri, 26 Feb 2010 18:58:51 +0000 http://whiskeyandgunpowder.com/?p=6447#comment-5862 What nations do americans compare themselves with when it comes to quality of life and standard of living? No doubt N.Korea comes to mind... the average working american does not have 4 weeks annual vacation, a 36 or 38 hour week, long service leave, holiday loading or a union to represent him, not to mention long term unemployment benifits or health care for all. 10 states do not allow felons to vote for life,yet demand they pay taxes. California has over 300 people serving 25 years to life for shoplifting. Its hard to find anything Americans have besides being able to own weapons that can wipe out your your shopping mall that really improves life. What nations do americans compare themselves with when it comes to quality of life and standard of living? No doubt N.Korea comes to mind… the average working american does not have 4 weeks annual vacation, a 36 or 38 hour week, long service leave, holiday loading or a union to represent him, not to mention long term unemployment benifits or health care for all. 10 states do not allow felons to vote for life,yet demand they pay taxes. California has over 300 people serving 25 years to life for shoplifting. Its hard to find anything Americans have besides being able to own weapons that can wipe out your your shopping mall that really improves life.

]]> By: Linda Brady Traynham http://whiskeyandgunpowder.com/secession-as-a-solution-to-the-washington-debt-threat/comment-page-2/#comment-5727 Linda Brady Traynham Sun, 21 Feb 2010 05:12:18 +0000 http://whiskeyandgunpowder.com/?p=6447#comment-5727 Bert, Babe, there are three ways to get money out of the bank: write a check/swipe your card, take out a loan, or hold the joint up. Where should you start for the best result? Here's another way to put that: "Always start by being nice. You can always turn nasty if nice doesn't work. However, it is very difficult to pitch a fit and then apologize and start over." It is possible, but it isn't the best way. Right now restoring the Republic is probably the dream of a few thousand at best but talking about it is a great start. I'm inspired enough to write my education packet, because I'm serious: so long as you aren't a Statist, no matter what you want or think would be good for our country, the best answer is "Restore the Republic." We've got to do it right, because this is the only chance we have to start over clean and without bloodshed. We aren't ever going to get Washington to dismantle deleterious programs or deregulate. We have the law on our side, and the 1836 Constitution isn't perfect but it is a great deal better than socialism. Bert, Babe, there are three ways to get money out of the bank: write a check/swipe your card, take out a loan, or hold the joint up. Where should you start for the best result? Here’s another way to put that: “Always start by being nice. You can always turn nasty if nice doesn’t work. However, it is very difficult to pitch a fit and then apologize and start over.” It is possible, but it isn’t the best way. Right now restoring the Republic is probably the dream of a few thousand at best but talking about it is a great start. I’m inspired enough to write my education packet, because I’m serious: so long as you aren’t a Statist, no matter what you want or think would be good for our country, the best answer is “Restore the Republic.” We’ve got to do it right, because this is the only chance we have to start over clean and without bloodshed. We aren’t ever going to get Washington to dismantle deleterious programs or deregulate. We have the law on our side, and the 1836 Constitution isn’t perfect but it is a great deal better than socialism.

]]> By: Linda Brady Traynham http://whiskeyandgunpowder.com/secession-as-a-solution-to-the-washington-debt-threat/comment-page-2/#comment-5726 Linda Brady Traynham Sun, 21 Feb 2010 05:01:12 +0000 http://whiskeyandgunpowder.com/?p=6447#comment-5726 Well said, Sam. I'm working on an article about the BATF threatening Montana and Tennessee over gun legislation completely within the power of states. It declared that guns manufactured in, sold in, and possessed by citizens of those states were legal all the way up to just short of those which require two men to find and 4" cannon. Thanks for writing. Linda Well said, Sam. I’m working on an article about the BATF threatening Montana and Tennessee over gun legislation completely within the power of states. It declared that guns manufactured in, sold in, and possessed by citizens of those states were legal all the way up to just short of those which require two men to find and 4″ cannon. Thanks for writing. Linda

]]> By: bert sargent http://whiskeyandgunpowder.com/secession-as-a-solution-to-the-washington-debt-threat/comment-page-2/#comment-5629 bert sargent Thu, 18 Feb 2010 17:29:00 +0000 http://whiskeyandgunpowder.com/?p=6447#comment-5629 next to last comment. had to reread about the 1770s history to correlate then and now. what action separated the colonies,13, from the british empire? are we not facing the same loss of freedom with the one worlder's quest for a world empire? will the ballot box suffice? plowing around that stump,the 1913 slavery act, has not succeeded. the non violence approach is not doing the job.[admit it] comes to mind there are two types of people, one is satisfied,no over joyed with the gov providing for all needs.[using others money and unlimited credit] and the minority that feel you deserve what you work for. what action removed the money changers from the temple. least but not last, can the united states weather another ballot box solution as was programed last time.? a job,food on the table and a roof overhead is what we all want,but are not all getting it today and tomorrow.? next to last comment. had to reread about the 1770s history to correlate then and now. what action separated the colonies,13, from the british empire? are we not facing the same loss of freedom with the one worlder’s quest for a world empire? will the ballot box suffice? plowing around that stump,the 1913 slavery act, has not succeeded. the non violence approach is not doing the job.[admit it] comes to mind there are two types of people, one is satisfied,no over joyed with the gov providing for all needs.[using others money and unlimited credit] and the minority that feel you deserve what you work for. what action removed the money changers from the temple. least but not last, can the united states weather another ballot box solution as was programed last time.? a job,food on the table and a roof overhead is what we all want,but are not all getting it today and tomorrow.?

]]> By: Sam Damewood http://whiskeyandgunpowder.com/secession-as-a-solution-to-the-washington-debt-threat/comment-page-2/#comment-5620 Sam Damewood Thu, 18 Feb 2010 03:28:27 +0000 http://whiskeyandgunpowder.com/?p=6447#comment-5620 It would be much preferable to what we have now, the issue is a lack of an adequate testosterone supply on the part of the states. When I see a governor putting his troops into the cities and forcibly closing federal offices I'll see hope. All the legislatures are doing now is appeasement. Action alone will tell. It would be much preferable to what we have now, the issue is a lack of an adequate testosterone supply on the part of the states.
When I see a governor putting his troops into the cities and forcibly closing federal offices I’ll see hope.
All the legislatures are doing now is appeasement.
Action alone will tell.

]]> By: Linda Brady Traynham http://whiskeyandgunpowder.com/secession-as-a-solution-to-the-washington-debt-threat/comment-page-2/#comment-5619 Linda Brady Traynham Thu, 18 Feb 2010 02:26:30 +0000 http://whiskeyandgunpowder.com/?p=6447#comment-5619 Walt, Love, we will stock everything that seems sensible. As for the Republic of Texas...talk to me about that Thursday! Hugs, L. Walt, Love, we will stock everything that seems sensible. As for the Republic of Texas…talk to me about that Thursday!

Hugs, L.

]]> By: Walt Bombka http://whiskeyandgunpowder.com/secession-as-a-solution-to-the-washington-debt-threat/comment-page-2/#comment-5616 Walt Bombka Thu, 18 Feb 2010 01:50:01 +0000 http://whiskeyandgunpowder.com/?p=6447#comment-5616 Coming from you Linda, I'll take that as a compliment. http://www.votehemp.com/federal.html Not sure what you think of Congressman Paul but I give him credit for the effort. When I reviewed the list of State Legislation at the site my own state of Illinois has looked at the idea but appears to be waiting on a cue from the Feds. Unfortunately the Republic of Texas as not bothered to explore the issue at all since the boys in Houston understandably would not a market competitor for the reserves that are already mapped out by the geologist and stored safely underground. In any case I still think it wise for you and YDC to stash some seed stock with the rest of the end of days gear. Allows for a diversified crop portfolio for the ranch. Coming from you Linda, I’ll take that as a compliment.

http://www.votehemp.com/federal.html

Not sure what you think of Congressman Paul but I give him credit for the effort. When I reviewed the list of State Legislation at the site my own state of Illinois has looked at the idea but appears to be waiting on a cue from the Feds. Unfortunately the Republic of Texas as not bothered to explore the issue at all since the boys in Houston understandably would not a market competitor for the reserves that are already mapped out by the geologist and stored safely underground.

In any case I still think it wise for you and YDC to stash some seed stock with the rest of the end of days gear. Allows for a diversified crop portfolio for the ranch.

]]> By: Linda Brady Traynham http://whiskeyandgunpowder.com/secession-as-a-solution-to-the-washington-debt-threat/comment-page-2/#comment-5607 Linda Brady Traynham Wed, 17 Feb 2010 19:23:38 +0000 http://whiskeyandgunpowder.com/?p=6447#comment-5607 Dear Jim and Bert: Steady, there, fellows. It is neither wise nor safe nor sensible to advocate open violence against anything farther up the evolutionary scale than mosquitoes and Cass Sunstein is probably against THAT. "When in the course of human events it becomes NECESSARY..." Lynching and insurrection are not necessary, so turn all that passion into something useful, like finding and supporting candidates you think will abide by the Constitution, please. Cool heads, soft words, and implacable convictions will work better and keep you out of trouble. Dear Jim and Bert: Steady, there, fellows. It is neither wise nor safe nor sensible to advocate open violence against anything farther up the evolutionary scale than mosquitoes and Cass Sunstein is probably against THAT. “When in the course of human events it becomes NECESSARY…” Lynching and insurrection are not necessary, so turn all that passion into something useful, like finding and supporting candidates you think will abide by the Constitution, please. Cool heads, soft words, and implacable convictions will work better and keep you out of trouble.

]]> By: Linda Brady Traynham http://whiskeyandgunpowder.com/secession-as-a-solution-to-the-washington-debt-threat/comment-page-2/#comment-5606 Linda Brady Traynham Wed, 17 Feb 2010 18:54:30 +0000 http://whiskeyandgunpowder.com/?p=6447#comment-5606 Walt, you lunatic! If I start emulating our founding fathers and growing my own hemp to make my own rope (we're all sure that's why Jefferson kept such careful notes, right?!) and medicines the Powers That Be will confiscate everything I've got and throw me in the hoosegow. They aren't going to want to hear that it makes great bird seed. (At one time 50% of commercial birdseed was sterilized marijuana.) Some generations' source of rope, feed, and oil is another's idea of the ultimate evil. Thought and mores change; the Victorians thought sex was dreadful, but that death and debtors' prisons were completely normal. They smoked opium, drank laudanum by the quart, and fainted at the sight of an ankle. IS there any difference between industrial and medicinal marijuana? All I know is that during the seventeen hundreds plants were selected for height to improve the strength of the rope, and that human hair makes great rope. IF it were legal, which it is not, cannabis might well make great goat feed if it didn't make them goofy. Until it is, I'm not going to experiment, thank you. I find the thought of incarceration and confiscation of my small assets a great deterrent. How dull of me, but there you have it. Linda Walt, you lunatic! If I start emulating our founding fathers and growing my own hemp to make my own rope (we’re all sure that’s why Jefferson kept such careful notes, right?!) and medicines the Powers That Be will confiscate everything I’ve got and throw me in the hoosegow. They aren’t going to want to hear that it makes great bird seed. (At one time 50% of commercial birdseed was sterilized marijuana.) Some generations’ source of rope, feed, and oil is another’s idea of the ultimate evil. Thought and mores change; the Victorians thought sex was dreadful, but that death and debtors’ prisons were completely normal. They smoked opium, drank laudanum by the quart, and fainted at the sight of an ankle. IS there any difference between industrial and medicinal marijuana? All I know is that during the seventeen hundreds plants were selected for height to improve the strength of the rope, and that human hair makes great rope. IF it were legal, which it is not, cannabis might well make great goat feed if it didn’t make them goofy. Until it is, I’m not going to experiment, thank you. I find the thought of incarceration and confiscation of my small assets a great deterrent. How dull of me, but there you have it. Linda

]]> By: bert sargent http://whiskeyandgunpowder.com/secession-as-a-solution-to-the-washington-debt-threat/comment-page-2/#comment-5604 bert sargent Wed, 17 Feb 2010 15:19:08 +0000 http://whiskeyandgunpowder.com/?p=6447#comment-5604 all kind of parties,political, today and i would like to rope in some to form a neck tie party. meetings could be held under a tree, a tree of liberty, and elected servants invited to attend and give a report on the oath of office and what they have done to abide by it. divide and concur or unite and concur? to unite builds a bigger defense. all kind of parties,political, today and i would like to rope in some to form a neck tie party. meetings could be held under a tree, a tree of liberty, and elected servants invited to attend and give a report on the oath of office and what they have done to abide by it. divide and concur or unite and concur? to unite builds a bigger defense.

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