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		<title>By: Nate K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nate K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 15:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;If you long to hand over sovereignty, the fruits of your labor and your arms to a bunch of greedy strangers in nice suits, then you are a statist. Sorry if that sounds like name-calling…but if it looks like a statist and talks like a statist…

If it makes you feel any better, when we cry “statist” or “Nazi” or “commie,” feel free to call us a bunch of gun-loving anarchists and irrationally pessimistic gold bugs. We promise we won’t mind. &lt;/i&gt;

Your vicious wit just makes me laugh.  I just love how you string words together!  

P.S.  Anyone who thinks socialism or even communism is a good thing and hasn&#039;t read Animal Farm should be ignored.  (I know, the pat answer to that is always, &quot;well WE could make socialism work.  WE&#039;re superior&quot;).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>If you long to hand over sovereignty, the fruits of your labor and your arms to a bunch of greedy strangers in nice suits, then you are a statist. Sorry if that sounds like name-calling…but if it looks like a statist and talks like a statist…</p>
<p>If it makes you feel any better, when we cry “statist” or “Nazi” or “commie,” feel free to call us a bunch of gun-loving anarchists and irrationally pessimistic gold bugs. We promise we won’t mind. </i></p>
<p>Your vicious wit just makes me laugh.  I just love how you string words together!  </p>
<p>P.S.  Anyone who thinks socialism or even communism is a good thing and hasn&#8217;t read Animal Farm should be ignored.  (I know, the pat answer to that is always, &#8220;well WE could make socialism work.  WE&#8217;re superior&#8221;).</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Jefferson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roy Jefferson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 21:19:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It needs to be said that IVF is what created these &quot;babies&quot; and they were already created to make money for the doctor.  So it is the initial act that is so hideous.  They are kept in a freezer and should have a right to die just like everyone else and on the way out they just like everyone else who gets to die can be harvested for cells, tissues and organs under family consent.  Anyone out there had a family member go under any surgery where they used cells (blood), tissue (knee and hip replacements) or organs (heart, liver, lung, or kidney)?  Well then your family member would be just as much liable for someones death as anyone who would ever use embryonic stem cells.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It needs to be said that IVF is what created these &#8220;babies&#8221; and they were already created to make money for the doctor.  So it is the initial act that is so hideous.  They are kept in a freezer and should have a right to die just like everyone else and on the way out they just like everyone else who gets to die can be harvested for cells, tissues and organs under family consent.  Anyone out there had a family member go under any surgery where they used cells (blood), tissue (knee and hip replacements) or organs (heart, liver, lung, or kidney)?  Well then your family member would be just as much liable for someones death as anyone who would ever use embryonic stem cells.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Gibson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Gibson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 17:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A lot of Shooters are outraged that we would suggest profiting on science that cannibalizes very young and tiny humans…

“This bill is going to kill human beings not yet allowed to be born.  I don’t think it is right to kill one human to maybe cure another. Why not human adult stem cells, they have already show signs of working? I don’t want to make money off of the unborn human being.”

Another reader agrees…and says good-bye:  “I can not be a part of any group of persons that advocates murder as a way to make money. The lack of your morals is the straw that breaks the bank.”

Good news! We weren’t advocating infanticide. Just listen here to get the details: http://www.agorafinancial.com/emergencyretirementrecoveryseries/index_part4.html

“What you call a key move including modern science with health innovation is the single biggest mistake President Obama has made thus far. He is choosing to sacrifice young lives for science, if that is the case than perhaps we should absolve the Nazis of what they were attempting to do during the war because it is the exact same thing.”

Again, I direct you to take a listen herehttp://www.agorafinancial.com/emergencyretirementrecoveryseries/index_part4.html

…and to tune in tomorrow…

It seems I’m forced again to address an issue I thought I’d put to bed…

“When I subscribed to W&amp;G I could count on reading information about how best to invest money…I am tired of all this he-said, she-said political bullshit…Obama this-liberal-that, conservative-this — on and on ad nauseam. History will deal the facts. Gold now is a far better issue from Agora Financial…or is your parent establishment just a damn farm club for Fox News commentator wannabes??? Now rear back and shoot that…or lose me and many others like me.”

Once more: Free e-letter…called “Whiskey &amp; Gunpowder” in homage to a tax revolt and attempted regicide. 

I don’t know how to make it any clearer. Your Whiskey Room editors believe firmly that the little conversations we have with you each business day will help you make sound financial decisions. Plus we really like your company.

But this isn’t just “Gold and Commodities”; it’s a consideration of history and human nature, a longing for liberty, a healthy mistrust of the state and a good dose of moral philosophy…and investment without a good dose of moral philosophy is what MSNBC is for. So you could tune in there…

Another reader, however, points out: “You seem excited about Obama allowing federal funding for stem cell research. I thought the Whiskey Room wouldn’t be happy about any sort of government interference.”

And you would be right. But this science is going forward (without butchering little babies) and part of our mission here is to help you all navigate the investment world while keeping an eye on what the state is up to. 

In a perfect world, President Obama wouldn’t be interfering with anything (because there would be a President Paul instead), but President Obama’s recent actions are going to make investors in certain biotech companies very wealthy. 

And here’s a pointed observation about yesterday’s Whiskey…

“Financial newsletters of late are beginning to play what I will term the ‘Karl Marx or socialism card’ in much the same manner that the Hitler Card is often employed in debates across a variety of subjects. When used it can be taken as a sign that one has lost the debate. 
 
“In almost every heated debate, one side or the other — often both — plays the ‘Hitler card’, that is, criticizes their opponent&#039;s position by associating it in some way with Adolf Hitler or the Nazis in general. This move is so common that it led Mike Godwin to develop the well-known ‘Godwin&#039;s Law of Nazi Analogies’: ‘As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one.’
 
“Why raise the specter of Marx to demonize policies of the current administration that you disagree with as did David Galland in a recent Whiskey and Gunpowder rant? Should not well stated argument and facts sufffice? Anything else drifts eventually into hyperbole and weakens one’s arguments.”

“A Karl Marx or socialism card”? Well, Shooter, if the shoe fits…

I’m sure Mr. Godwin has a point. Let people argue long enough and they eventually just start calling each other idiots and devils…and the most vivid examples of idiotic devilry are national socialists and communists. 

But communists and national socialists are just different flavors of statists, of people who believe that mobs and the narcissists they elect and the armed thugs they in turn empower possess a magical wisdom and benevolence…that the needs of both society and the individual can best be met by coercion and collectivism. 

If you long to hand over sovereignty, the fruits of your labor and your arms to a bunch of greedy strangers in nice suits, then you are a statist. Sorry if that sounds like name-calling…but if it looks like a statist and talks like a statist…

If it makes you feel any better, when we cry “statist” or “Nazi” or “commie,” feel free to call us a bunch of gun-loving anarchists and irrationally pessimistic gold bugs. We promise we won’t mind. 

Regards,
Gary Gibson
Managing Editor, Whiskey &amp; Gunpowder</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of Shooters are outraged that we would suggest profiting on science that cannibalizes very young and tiny humans…</p>
<p>“This bill is going to kill human beings not yet allowed to be born.  I don’t think it is right to kill one human to maybe cure another. Why not human adult stem cells, they have already show signs of working? I don’t want to make money off of the unborn human being.”</p>
<p>Another reader agrees…and says good-bye:  “I can not be a part of any group of persons that advocates murder as a way to make money. The lack of your morals is the straw that breaks the bank.”</p>
<p>Good news! We weren’t advocating infanticide. Just listen here to get the details: <a href="http://www.agorafinancial.com/emergencyretirementrecoveryseries/index_part4.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.agorafinancial.com/.....part4.html</a></p>
<p>“What you call a key move including modern science with health innovation is the single biggest mistake President Obama has made thus far. He is choosing to sacrifice young lives for science, if that is the case than perhaps we should absolve the Nazis of what they were attempting to do during the war because it is the exact same thing.”</p>
<p>Again, I direct you to take a listen <a href='herehttp://www.agorafinancial.com/emergencyretirementrecoveryseries/index_part4.html' rel='nofollow'>herehttp://www.agorafinancial.com/emergencyretirementrecoveryseries/index_part4.html</a></p>
<p>…and to tune in tomorrow…</p>
<p>It seems I’m forced again to address an issue I thought I’d put to bed…</p>
<p>“When I subscribed to W&amp;G I could count on reading information about how best to invest money…I am tired of all this he-said, she-said political bullshit…Obama this-liberal-that, conservative-this — on and on ad nauseam. History will deal the facts. Gold now is a far better issue from Agora Financial…or is your parent establishment just a damn farm club for Fox News commentator wannabes??? Now rear back and shoot that…or lose me and many others like me.”</p>
<p>Once more: Free e-letter…called “Whiskey &amp; Gunpowder” in homage to a tax revolt and attempted regicide. </p>
<p>I don’t know how to make it any clearer. Your Whiskey Room editors believe firmly that the little conversations we have with you each business day will help you make sound financial decisions. Plus we really like your company.</p>
<p>But this isn’t just “Gold and Commodities”; it’s a consideration of history and human nature, a longing for liberty, a healthy mistrust of the state and a good dose of moral philosophy…and investment without a good dose of moral philosophy is what MSNBC is for. So you could tune in there…</p>
<p>Another reader, however, points out: “You seem excited about Obama allowing federal funding for stem cell research. I thought the Whiskey Room wouldn’t be happy about any sort of government interference.”</p>
<p>And you would be right. But this science is going forward (without butchering little babies) and part of our mission here is to help you all navigate the investment world while keeping an eye on what the state is up to. </p>
<p>In a perfect world, President Obama wouldn’t be interfering with anything (because there would be a President Paul instead), but President Obama’s recent actions are going to make investors in certain biotech companies very wealthy. </p>
<p>And here’s a pointed observation about yesterday’s Whiskey…</p>
<p>“Financial newsletters of late are beginning to play what I will term the ‘Karl Marx or socialism card’ in much the same manner that the Hitler Card is often employed in debates across a variety of subjects. When used it can be taken as a sign that one has lost the debate. </p>
<p>“In almost every heated debate, one side or the other — often both — plays the ‘Hitler card’, that is, criticizes their opponent&#8217;s position by associating it in some way with Adolf Hitler or the Nazis in general. This move is so common that it led Mike Godwin to develop the well-known ‘Godwin&#8217;s Law of Nazi Analogies’: ‘As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one.’</p>
<p>“Why raise the specter of Marx to demonize policies of the current administration that you disagree with as did David Galland in a recent Whiskey and Gunpowder rant? Should not well stated argument and facts sufffice? Anything else drifts eventually into hyperbole and weakens one’s arguments.”</p>
<p>“A Karl Marx or socialism card”? Well, Shooter, if the shoe fits…</p>
<p>I’m sure Mr. Godwin has a point. Let people argue long enough and they eventually just start calling each other idiots and devils…and the most vivid examples of idiotic devilry are national socialists and communists. </p>
<p>But communists and national socialists are just different flavors of statists, of people who believe that mobs and the narcissists they elect and the armed thugs they in turn empower possess a magical wisdom and benevolence…that the needs of both society and the individual can best be met by coercion and collectivism. </p>
<p>If you long to hand over sovereignty, the fruits of your labor and your arms to a bunch of greedy strangers in nice suits, then you are a statist. Sorry if that sounds like name-calling…but if it looks like a statist and talks like a statist…</p>
<p>If it makes you feel any better, when we cry “statist” or “Nazi” or “commie,” feel free to call us a bunch of gun-loving anarchists and irrationally pessimistic gold bugs. We promise we won’t mind. </p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Gary Gibson<br />
Managing Editor, Whiskey &amp; Gunpowder</p>
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