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		<title>Homebuilders&#8217; P/E Ratios: $312 Million for This?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Shedlock</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mike Shedlock looks at a recent land purchase in Arizona &#8212; and how Homebuilders&#8217; P/E Ratios may be high, but it&#8217;s a deceptive high. $312 Million for This? THE TOLL BROTHERS, Meritage Homes, and Simon Property Group Joint Venture announced the purchase of a 5,485-acre land parcel in Phoenix&#8217;s Northwest Valley for $312 million. It [...]<p><a href="http://whiskeyandgunpowder.com/homebuilders-pe-ratios-312-million-for-this/">Homebuilders&#8217; P/E Ratios: $312 Million for This?</a> was originally featured on <a href="http://whiskeyandgunpowder.com">Whiskey and Gunpowder</a>. Visit <a href="http://lfb.org/">Laissez Faire Books</a> for the best selection of libertarian book titles.</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="WnGbody_text">Mike Shedlock looks at a recent land purchase in Arizona &#8212; and how Homebuilders&#8217; P/E Ratios may be high, but it&#8217;s a deceptive high.</span></p>
<p><span class="WnGbody_text"><strong>$312 Million for This?</strong><br />
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<p><span class="WnGbody_text">THE TOLL BROTHERS, Meritage Homes, and Simon Property Group Joint Venture announced the purchase of a 5,485-acre land parcel in Phoenix&#8217;s Northwest Valley for $312 million. It is the largest real estate transaction in Arizona history:</span></p>
<blockquote><p><span class="WnGbody_text">&#8220;The Maricopa County property, which DaimlerChrysler currently utilizes as a vehicle endurance testing and development facility, is bound by 183rd Avenue on the east, 211th Avenue on the west, Dove Valley on the south, and Joy Ranch Road on the north. DaimlerChrysler will continue to lease the property for the next few years, in order to plan and accommodate for the orderly transition of its testing operations.</span></p>
<p><span class="WnGbody_text">&#8220;Toll Brothers and Meritage Homes each plan to build a significant number of homes on the site. Simon Property Group Inc. has the option to purchase a substantial portion of the commercial property. Other parcels may be sold to third parties. Initial plans call for a mixed-use master planned community, which will include approximately 4,840 acres of single-family homes and attached homes. Approximately 645 acres of commercial and retail development will include schools, community amenities, and open space. Initial homes sales are tentatively scheduled to begin in 2009. According to the approved General Plan, the site allows between 15,000-31,000 homes.</span></p></blockquote>
<p><span class="WnGbody_text">&#8220;Robert I. Toll, chairman and chief executive officer of Toll Brothers Inc., stated: &#8216;We are thrilled to have been chosen by DaimlerChrysler and to have teamed up with two excellent partners to develop this fabulous piece of real estate. The northwest area of Phoenix has experienced unprecedented popularity, and this particular parcel is a highly coveted site.&#8217;&#8221;</span></p>
<p><span class="WnGbody_text">$312 million for 5,485 acres of desert with a testing track on it. That amounts to $56,882 per acre of flat desert.</span></p>
<p><span class="WnGbody_text">Enquiring Mish bloggers might be wondering exactly where Phoenix&#8217;s magnificent Northwest Valley is. Through the wonder of Google satellite imagery, I am pleased to show everyone the following pictures of just what that consortium of buyers got for their $312 million.</span></p>
<p><span class="WnGbody_text">Here is this &#8220;highly coveted site&#8221;:</span></p>
<p><a class="flickr-image" title="phpwq5Q5T" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/28114165@N06/3082027853/"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3279/3082027853_37ca806471.jpg" alt="phpwq5Q5T" /></a></p>
<div><span class="WnGbody_text"><span class="WnGbody_text">It seems to be about 35-40 miles from Phoenix. The attraction? A commute from there to downtown during rush hour might be close to an hour each way, and where will gas prices be in a couple of years anyway?</span></span></div>
<div><span class="WnGbody_text"><span class="WnGbody_text">Let&#8217;s zoom in, looking for the attraction:</span></span></div>
<div><span class="WnGbody_text"> </span></div>
<p><span class="WnGbody_text"> </span></p>
<p><a class="flickr-image" title="phpSPi1NO" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/28114165@N06/3082030549/"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3164/3082030549_d5ba0b3bd4.jpg" alt="phpSPi1NO" /></a></p>
<div><span class="WnGbody_text"><span class="WnGbody_text">I do not see any. Do you? Let&#8217;s zoom in further:</span></span></div>
<div><span class="WnGbody_text"> </span></div>
<div><span class="WnGbody_text"> </span></div>
<p><span class="WnGbody_text"> </span></p>
<p><a class="flickr-image" title="php1Oq4h3" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/28114165@N06/3082033907/"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3245/3082033907_6cc45e24fe.jpg" alt="php1Oq4h3" /></a></p>
<div><span class="WnGbody_text"><span class="WnGbody_text">There it is. I boxed it in. The premier spot to test-drive your new Camaro, provided, of course, Toll Brothers decides to keep that test track up and running. If not, what&#8217;s the attraction?</span></span></div>
<div><span class="WnGbody_text"> </span></div>
<p align="left"><span class="WnGbody_text"><strong>Homebuilders&#8217; P/E Ratios: Homebuilders Buried in Land</strong> </span></p>
<p><span class="WnGbody_text">With that in mind, I note with interest this Street.com article entitled &#8220;Homebuilders Buried in Land.&#8221; Enquiring Mish readers might want to know more, so let&#8217;s take a look at that too:</span></p>
<blockquote><p><span class="WnGbody_text">&#8220;Ed Wachenheim, a long-term value investor, agrees with the general view that homebuilder stocks are cheap right now. But the money manager, who was once a major owner of the sector, has sold off most of his positions because he&#8217;s worried about the huge amount of land on builders&#8217; books.</span></p>
<p><span class="WnGbody_text">&#8220;&#8216;My fear is that many of the companies took on too large land positions at too high prices. And that means that should the industry turn down that there is risk that there will be some impairment of land values,&#8217; says Wachenheim, who runs Greenhaven Associates, a Purchase, N.Y.-based firm that manages $3.7 billion of capital, mostly for wealthy individuals.</span></p>
<p><span class="WnGbody_text">&#8220;It&#8217;s difficult to determine if Wachenheim&#8217;s concerns are justified and builders have been too aggressive in taking on new land. Builders report the dollar value of their total land holdings in quarterly filings, but nothing is usually said about the prices paid for individual parcels.</span></p>
<p><span class="WnGbody_text">&#8220;There also is no geographic breakdown to determine whether a builder like Pulte Homes, for example, has too much exposure to a frothy market like Las Vegas. All the public knows is that Pulte&#8217;s total inventory of owned land was $5.3 billion for the quarter ending Sept. 30, up from $4.49 billion a year earlier. That amounts to 170,000 home lots, or roughly three years of supply, the company says.</span></p>
<p><span class="WnGbody_text">&#8220;But what if that&#8217;s too much land to be holding in a slowing housing market…</span></p>
<p><span class="WnGbody_text">&#8220;The issue is of particular note since builders have spent the bulk of their earnings over the past few years buying land for future building. Although most builders have at least 50% of their lots controlled through options, a large amount of purchased land continues to be placed on balance sheets. As a result, the sector in general has seen negative cash flows for some time now.</span></p>
<p><span class="WnGbody_text">&#8220;&#8216;I have never seen a group, in 20 years of analysis, post negative cash flow from earnings for four of the last five years and prosper as a stock group without having to pay the piper,&#8217; says Jim Poyner, an analyst for Palladian Research, an independent New York research house. Poyner thinks land impairments could begin popping up over the next year if builders start slashing prices on new homes for sale.</span></p>
<p><span class="WnGbody_text">&#8220;Robert Curran, a Fitch Ratings analyst who covers the builders, says it&#8217;s premature to worry about land impairments now, but grants that the issue could arise in the future.</span></p>
<p><span class="WnGbody_text">&#8220;&#8216;There isn&#8217;t anyone who really stands out as being overloaded on raw land on the balance sheet that is just sitting there,&#8217; Curran says. It would take an economic recession or a really problematic regional housing market for there to be large land impairments, he adds. &#8216;If home prices come down, it doesn&#8217;t mean you will write down land assets.&#8217;&#8221;</span></p></blockquote>
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<p align="left"><span class="WnGbody_text"><strong>Homebuilders&#8217; P/E Ratios: A Mirage in the Desert</strong></span><span class="WnGbody_text">On that note, I just received another telepathic question. It&#8217;s been awhile since we have had one of those.</span></p>
<p><span class="WnGbody_text">Here it is: &#8220;But Mish, what about those fabulous P/Es?&#8221;</span></p>
<p><span class="WnGbody_text">Those P/Es are a mirage. The homebuilders have negative cash flow and keep sinking every penny of their earnings into land, land, and more land at increasingly absurd prices, as the article above addressed and that $312 million transaction proved.</span></p>
<p><span class="WnGbody_text">Here is the homebuilder picture:</span></p>
<blockquote><p><span class="WnGbody_text">· Homebuilders have negative cash flows<br />
· Homebuilders put the bulk of their profits into buying more land at absurd prices<br />
· Homebuilders are totally ignoring the yield curve<br />
· Homebuilders are discounting the odds of a recession.</span></p></blockquote>
<p><span class="WnGbody_text">That, of course, does not mean that homebuilders will sink anytime soon. They may or may not. There has been one hell of a short squeeze lately, and everyone seems to be playing the trend of 2003 right now. No one seems to see falling sales, rising inventories, sinking refis, and discounts by the homebuilders.</span></p>
<p><span class="WnGbody_text">Just two weeks ago, I was told by a real estate broker friend of mine that Atlanta was impervious to a slowdown and there would be no recession coming our way. I note with interest this ad by Centrex.</span></p>
<p><span class="WnGbody_text">$60,000 off? Everything is fine in Atlanta?</span></p>
<p><span class="WnGbody_text">Everyone seems to think their area is impervious to a slowdown, because of demographics, warm weather, an ocean, or whatever. That seems to be the key to this mania.</span></p>
<p><span class="WnGbody_text">Well, I have news for you. An &#8220;Interest Rate Squeeze&#8221; does not care where you live. Prices matter, as do prevailing rents. Home prices do not always go up. Please click on that link and see what I am talking about. I suspect Toll Brothers and Meritage Homes will find out in due time just how silly that purchase in Phoenix was. By then, it will be too late. It is the overpayment for land that bankrupts homebuilders every cycle. This cycle will be no different.</span></p>
<p><span class="WnGbody_text">Regards,<br />
Mike Shedlock ~ &#8220;Mish&#8221;<br />
</span><span class="WnGbody_text">January 18, 2006</span></p>
<p><a href="http://whiskeyandgunpowder.com/homebuilders-pe-ratios-312-million-for-this/">Homebuilders&#8217; P/E Ratios: $312 Million for This?</a> was originally featured on <a href="http://whiskeyandgunpowder.com">Whiskey and Gunpowder</a>. Visit <a href="http://lfb.org/">Laissez Faire Books</a> for the best selection of libertarian book titles.</p>
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