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		<title>By: RVNS Tran Quoc Toan (HQ-06) &#124; Hayti, South Dakota</title>
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		<title>By: Gary Gibson</title>
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		<description>I know. I was just being sarcastic in an effort to demonstrate how incredibly wrong the argument for government redistribution and meddling are. 

All those who are for it won&#039;t ever change their minds, however.</description>
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<p>All those who are for it won&#8217;t ever change their minds, however.</p>
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		<title>By: Polk Centre Township, Pennington County, Minnesota &#187; Akron, Colorado</title>
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		<dc:creator>Polk Centre Township, Pennington County, Minnesota &#187; Akron, Colorado</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Polk Centre Township, Pennington County, Minnesota &#187; Pittsfield Township, Pennsylvania</title>
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		<dc:creator>Polk Centre Township, Pennington County, Minnesota &#187; Pittsfield Township, Pennsylvania</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: &#187; Gonzales County, Texas Ran Libeskind-Hadas</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; Gonzales County, Texas Ran Libeskind-Hadas</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: oldmanriver</title>
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		<description>Gary... we already do have socialized food and housing.  Ive farmed for about 30 years and in a typical year i receive between 75000 to 100000 per year from the government.  if thats not socialism I dont know what it is.   The government has had a cheap food policy for decades.  We have programs for low income housing too as well as in recent history we were giving money out like drunken sailors to everyone that wanted to buy a house.  Now we are all paying for it.  Kind of a convoluted socialism but we all end up paying for it anyway.  While the prospect of the government telling you what to do and how to live is not very enticing even worse is that basically large corporations are running the country.  I trust the government more than I do some faceless corporate suit, at least I get to vote for the government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gary&#8230; we already do have socialized food and housing.  Ive farmed for about 30 years and in a typical year i receive between 75000 to 100000 per year from the government.  if thats not socialism I dont know what it is.   The government has had a cheap food policy for decades.  We have programs for low income housing too as well as in recent history we were giving money out like drunken sailors to everyone that wanted to buy a house.  Now we are all paying for it.  Kind of a convoluted socialism but we all end up paying for it anyway.  While the prospect of the government telling you what to do and how to live is not very enticing even worse is that basically large corporations are running the country.  I trust the government more than I do some faceless corporate suit, at least I get to vote for the government.</p>
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		<title>By: Gold investing &#124; U.S. House Prices in Gold - Contrarian Stock Market Investing News - Featuring Bargain Stocks</title>
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		<title>By: Gary Gibson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Gibson</dc:creator>
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		<description>I’ve been thinking of any future home purchases in terms of gold and silver. It wouldn’t surprise me in the least if a 715-oz bag of old silver dimes — which could have been picked up for around $3,500 a couple of years back — will be able to purchase an entire house in a decent area at some point in the future.

Well, our views on the socialization of medicine brought all the Canadians and commies out of the woodwork. My poor inbox nearly caught fire. Language, people! 
 
Well let’s get started…

&quot;You are totally wrong in your views of socialized medicine. In Canada physicians earn a lot more than the so-called $100,000 as you espoused. Pathologists are guaranteed $350,000 in Ontario and that is minimum. If you look at your system, you will find that a huge percentage of funding goes directly to non-essential work such as employing massive numbers of people to simply track the billing of poor saps who may have to lose their houses and belonging for your private system.

&quot;As for university education, you will find that our standards are a lot higher than yours and the graduates are extremely qualified and rewarded because of this. There are no graduating “forced thru” football players. In other words get your facts straight before printing such rubbish!&quot;

We try, good reader, we try…but there are so many conflicting reports and they seem to depend on whether or not the reporter constitutionally favor getting out more than they put in based on “need.”

Here is a snippet from a very good email from “a retired physician/naturopath/nutritionist who has been a board certified family physician”…

&quot;The biggest problem will come if private medical care is not allowed.  Hillary Clinton tried to do this.  It is already virtually impossible for a Medicare patient to get appropriate medical care since Medicare does not allow their recipients to get appropriate care even if they are willing to pay for it themselves if Medicare does not pay for it.  In other words, people are already being denied the freedom to get the medical care they need and want.  I cannot imagine any country, which claims to believe in freedom, denying the most basic freedom to its citizens.  The governments of other countries that offer socialized medicine allow a very thriving private practice.  If the government controls all access to medical care, then that is a stranglehold on the population and the government then becomes a dictatorship.&quot;

I wish I had the room to run the rest of the good doctor’s letter in its entirety. 

Here’s another e-mail that didn’t involve someone calling my contributors and me a pack of lying idiots…

&quot;C’mon boys and girls — if the Constitution can justify giving loads of money we don’t have to the Wall Street gang, we can surely find enough wiggle room in the old document to underwrite our collective healthcare!!
 
&quot;Having lived under &#039;socialized medicine&#039; in Australia in the late 70’s, until we were all rescued by Mr. Fraser, I can tell you that it can be quite painless when administered by an educated, dedicated, and vigilant civil service — especially in a country with less than 12 million people. Herein lies the real problem. The U.S. civil service is mostly inept. They can no longer deliver mail reliably, police the scoundrels (on Wall Street and elsewhere), and if you have ever tried to even call the Social Security folks or Medicare you will be lucky to even speak to a real person who can, or will, be able to assist you.
 
&quot;For anyone in Congress to believe that with a population closing in on 300 million people (many of whom will take advantage of any government program they come across) that we can administer a larger version of what we now have, they must live in total isolation from anything real. What are they smoking — or drinking??
 
&quot;We just don’t have the proper people to run any type of socialized anything, period!!
 
&quot;Still Farming in the Desert &quot; 

But here are portions of a letter that resumes the yelling and cussing (not that there’s anything wrong with that)…

&quot;I know you love to inflame, but I’ve gotta say that the tired, old, ill-informed bullshit that you yankees trot out about the perils of “socialized medicine” is really wearing a bit thin.

&quot;I’ve lived in 3 countries with public + private health insurance (Australia, UK, Netherlands) and have found my dealings with doctors and hospitals were fine. And in all of them, the same old thing applies: if you can afford it you will get better service, but if not, the basics will be covered. In all 3 countries there are health insurers making good profits, doctors and nurses that choose their career paths and some great hospitals and some mediocre hospitals.

&quot;They’re not perfect, but a whole lot better than the basket case that the US has.

&quot;What the f*** is wrong with you people? Whenever I hear yankees crapping on this way about “socialized medicine”, it’s like their brains have switched off and otherwise normal people become completely irrational. Public health affects productivity. A basic level of public health is essential for a functioning society. We all suffer from the same sorts of things, mostly, but occasionally circumstances mean some of us need better care. Those that can afford it will get it.

&quot;The image you project to the world is like some hick retard with a cellar full of machine guns and hand grenades for &#039;Home Security&#039;, while refusing to pay for his mother’s hospital bill.&quot;

I’m all for paying my mother’s hospital bill. I just don’t feel it’s right to force others to help me do so by means of the ballot and the gun.

That’s where socialism apologists trip up. They conflate who’s responsible for what. 

If you find yourself in paroxysms of joy at examples of socialized healthcare that seem to work, understand that you are taking joy in government redistribution. You like playing with other people’s money. 

That’s the thing about mobs and voting. Things that are criminal at the individual level become virtuous when the majority approve. 

But why do folks stop at healthcare? Isn’t the need for food much more basic and immediate than the need for a doctor? And what about housing? People who are well fed and properly sheltered are more likely to be healthy, aren’t they? Why not address the Root Causes?!

Hallelujah, I think I’ve seen the light.

I think all you socialized medicine people are misdirecting your energies. The federal and state governments should institute a program of food insurance and house insurance first. 

We could start with legislation that provides for unwed mothers. Sure some folks may take advantage of it and form collections of children from different fathers, but the goal is noble enough to take that chance.

Eventually, maybe we can insure that all citizens everywhere under some arbitrary level of income have access to food, housing and health for which someone else pays. What a glorious and equitable world it will be. 

Till tomorrow,
Gary Gibson
Managing Editor, Whiskey &amp; Gunpowder</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’ve been thinking of any future home purchases in terms of gold and silver. It wouldn’t surprise me in the least if a 715-oz bag of old silver dimes — which could have been picked up for around $3,500 a couple of years back — will be able to purchase an entire house in a decent area at some point in the future.</p>
<p>Well, our views on the socialization of medicine brought all the Canadians and commies out of the woodwork. My poor inbox nearly caught fire. Language, people! </p>
<p>Well let’s get started…</p>
<p>&#8220;You are totally wrong in your views of socialized medicine. In Canada physicians earn a lot more than the so-called $100,000 as you espoused. Pathologists are guaranteed $350,000 in Ontario and that is minimum. If you look at your system, you will find that a huge percentage of funding goes directly to non-essential work such as employing massive numbers of people to simply track the billing of poor saps who may have to lose their houses and belonging for your private system.</p>
<p>&#8220;As for university education, you will find that our standards are a lot higher than yours and the graduates are extremely qualified and rewarded because of this. There are no graduating “forced thru” football players. In other words get your facts straight before printing such rubbish!&#8221;</p>
<p>We try, good reader, we try…but there are so many conflicting reports and they seem to depend on whether or not the reporter constitutionally favor getting out more than they put in based on “need.”</p>
<p>Here is a snippet from a very good email from “a retired physician/naturopath/nutritionist who has been a board certified family physician”…</p>
<p>&#8220;The biggest problem will come if private medical care is not allowed.  Hillary Clinton tried to do this.  It is already virtually impossible for a Medicare patient to get appropriate medical care since Medicare does not allow their recipients to get appropriate care even if they are willing to pay for it themselves if Medicare does not pay for it.  In other words, people are already being denied the freedom to get the medical care they need and want.  I cannot imagine any country, which claims to believe in freedom, denying the most basic freedom to its citizens.  The governments of other countries that offer socialized medicine allow a very thriving private practice.  If the government controls all access to medical care, then that is a stranglehold on the population and the government then becomes a dictatorship.&#8221;</p>
<p>I wish I had the room to run the rest of the good doctor’s letter in its entirety. </p>
<p>Here’s another e-mail that didn’t involve someone calling my contributors and me a pack of lying idiots…</p>
<p>&#8220;C’mon boys and girls — if the Constitution can justify giving loads of money we don’t have to the Wall Street gang, we can surely find enough wiggle room in the old document to underwrite our collective healthcare!!</p>
<p>&#8220;Having lived under &#8216;socialized medicine&#8217; in Australia in the late 70’s, until we were all rescued by Mr. Fraser, I can tell you that it can be quite painless when administered by an educated, dedicated, and vigilant civil service — especially in a country with less than 12 million people. Herein lies the real problem. The U.S. civil service is mostly inept. They can no longer deliver mail reliably, police the scoundrels (on Wall Street and elsewhere), and if you have ever tried to even call the Social Security folks or Medicare you will be lucky to even speak to a real person who can, or will, be able to assist you.</p>
<p>&#8220;For anyone in Congress to believe that with a population closing in on 300 million people (many of whom will take advantage of any government program they come across) that we can administer a larger version of what we now have, they must live in total isolation from anything real. What are they smoking — or drinking??</p>
<p>&#8220;We just don’t have the proper people to run any type of socialized anything, period!!</p>
<p>&#8220;Still Farming in the Desert &#8221; </p>
<p>But here are portions of a letter that resumes the yelling and cussing (not that there’s anything wrong with that)…</p>
<p>&#8220;I know you love to inflame, but I’ve gotta say that the tired, old, ill-informed bullshit that you yankees trot out about the perils of “socialized medicine” is really wearing a bit thin.</p>
<p>&#8220;I’ve lived in 3 countries with public + private health insurance (Australia, UK, Netherlands) and have found my dealings with doctors and hospitals were fine. And in all of them, the same old thing applies: if you can afford it you will get better service, but if not, the basics will be covered. In all 3 countries there are health insurers making good profits, doctors and nurses that choose their career paths and some great hospitals and some mediocre hospitals.</p>
<p>&#8220;They’re not perfect, but a whole lot better than the basket case that the US has.</p>
<p>&#8220;What the f*** is wrong with you people? Whenever I hear yankees crapping on this way about “socialized medicine”, it’s like their brains have switched off and otherwise normal people become completely irrational. Public health affects productivity. A basic level of public health is essential for a functioning society. We all suffer from the same sorts of things, mostly, but occasionally circumstances mean some of us need better care. Those that can afford it will get it.</p>
<p>&#8220;The image you project to the world is like some hick retard with a cellar full of machine guns and hand grenades for &#8216;Home Security&#8217;, while refusing to pay for his mother’s hospital bill.&#8221;</p>
<p>I’m all for paying my mother’s hospital bill. I just don’t feel it’s right to force others to help me do so by means of the ballot and the gun.</p>
<p>That’s where socialism apologists trip up. They conflate who’s responsible for what. </p>
<p>If you find yourself in paroxysms of joy at examples of socialized healthcare that seem to work, understand that you are taking joy in government redistribution. You like playing with other people’s money. </p>
<p>That’s the thing about mobs and voting. Things that are criminal at the individual level become virtuous when the majority approve. </p>
<p>But why do folks stop at healthcare? Isn’t the need for food much more basic and immediate than the need for a doctor? And what about housing? People who are well fed and properly sheltered are more likely to be healthy, aren’t they? Why not address the Root Causes?!</p>
<p>Hallelujah, I think I’ve seen the light.</p>
<p>I think all you socialized medicine people are misdirecting your energies. The federal and state governments should institute a program of food insurance and house insurance first. </p>
<p>We could start with legislation that provides for unwed mothers. Sure some folks may take advantage of it and form collections of children from different fathers, but the goal is noble enough to take that chance.</p>
<p>Eventually, maybe we can insure that all citizens everywhere under some arbitrary level of income have access to food, housing and health for which someone else pays. What a glorious and equitable world it will be. </p>
<p>Till tomorrow,<br />
Gary Gibson<br />
Managing Editor, Whiskey &amp; Gunpowder</p>
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